As someone said in his/her status recently (sorry, so many posts lately, can't remember who it was), never post about WASTE presales on a forum or Facebook as that's how ticket touts get to know about it. Well, a Radiohead French site (which I'm not a member of) just did everything possible to break the news for all presales both on their site and FB page (and probably Twitter and other social media too, I don't know I'm not on social media). Here's a screencap for yesterday's Lyon presale :
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Missed out on both presale on WASTE and Ticketmaster. Looking for 2 tix to either show. I'm in DC. Long time fan. Thanks.
Just this, really
It's very simplistic and I'll probably edit this and re post in a more elegant form
Just thoughts about unnecessary cuts and the impact on people in the uk, and how this marginalizes the people affected, as well as denying talented folk with not much money the chance to be a positive influence to the climate debate.
Knowing what it's like to choose between eating and paying bills in my past, and finding it impossible to engage as closely with things like Twyford Down, when this was happening, I wonder how much the obsession with austerity has isolated people either in the benefits cycle or on low incomes from the climate change debate, so they are left having to focus on daily survival rather than being able to perhaps feel even remotely included in what used to be a discussion?
The cuts appear to have divided and conquered to the extent the tories are able to engage in Paris with lots of positive messages one minute, and less than a week later, cut subsidies to renewable energy, with barely a murmur, and I wonder if this is partly to do with intense public media manipulation, but also silencing several million voices?
It's not just people who were already on the margins being impacted, I wonder if I'm alone in finding this worrying amongst other responses?
Apologies if this is a tedious repeat of other blogs or inappropriate.....
Just wondering what the process is going to be for buying the tickets for the Lyon show. I see that there are two separate dates - one for WASTE and one for the General Public. Can someone please advise which website we will have to go on to buy tickets and also what time they will be available from and which time zone ??? Thank you
Hi,
I would like to know at what time can we buy the tickets for Fourviere on March 30th?
Thanks for your answers.
Caroline
Ticketmaster/Ticketservice is selling tickets, as I read, also through their own resale companies. Making big bucks. Winning this endless war over how to make as much money as possible, over the backs of the many Radiohead fans.
They won this 'war', but at the cost of many victims.
I asked ticketmaster (Netherlands) to make it possible for people who really wanted to go to Radiohead, bought a ticket, but they can't go anymore due to circumstances beyond their will, to resell their ticket. No profit, trustworthy. This must be made possible. You cannot victimize hard working music lovers because reselling rats make victims with high prices and non deliveries. I know someone who cannot go anymore. I really want to go, but cannot buy his ticket. He looses a lot of money and gets nothing in return. I am frustrated, angry and emotional. We all are victims. Everybody lost.
Can't we urge the music industry to ban ticketservice, to make it a Pyrrhus win?
Read and judge yourselves (love how the band changed to Pearl Jam half-way through reply)
Ticketmaster Response
Hi William,
Thanks for reaching out, I'd be more than happy to see what we can do to help.
I am deeply sorry you were unable to get tickets to Radiohead. But you have to understand that there are thousands of people on our website at the same time as you trying to buy tickets for the same event. Not everyone is able to get a ticket due to limited seating in the venue.
We take countless measures to prevent scalpers from purchasing tickets. We set ticket limits on every event and in this case the ticket limit is 4 tickets per household. Even scalpers have the right to 4 tickets, who are we to stop them form purchasing the limit. Now is someone goes over that limit then our over the ticket limit department cancels tickets down to the ticket limit, which is good news for you because those tickets go back into inventory and back up for sale. So you will still have an opportunity to get great Pearl Jam tickets. Another way to minimize ticket scalping is by setting a delivery delay on the event. If fans are not able to get there tickets until closer to the event then there is less scalping going on. We have also banned some users from the sight because we know they are ticket scalpers but people will still find ways around that.
Not everyone who resells their tickets are professional fans, that is want we label ticket scalpers. Some of these fans are just people who see an opportunity to make a little money. When you see tickets on resale sites that go on sale at the same time we go on sale, that is because we do have presales. Some of the presale fans may decicide that they want to sell there tickets, so they post them for sale on another sight. But the good thing about presale tickets is that we only sell a limited number of them and once they are gone the presale is over. Tickets are also sold on other sights at the same time as the on sale because there are season ticket holders for that venue that might decide that they can't make that particular event, so they place them for sale.
I hope I have answered all of your concerns. Make sure you continue to check the website to see if the tickets that went over the ticket limit go back up for sale.
If you need anything else, just reply to this email or click Help on Ticketmaster.com!
Sincerely,
Kyle
Ticketmaster Fan Support
This goes to everyone who is right now frustrated for not getting the tickets, it is just my humble opinion, and leave it behind if you don't like it . I have been where you are right now, and trust me, I can relate with your feelings. After many years of introspection I recently realize that a relationship consist of share responsibility. You are picking a fight with a powerful Lobby, They don't care about you and me, or about Radiohead. Going to concerts is becoming a luxury for rich ones. I started questioning then why the Band, that is so strongly opinionated about these matters and about the fairness towards the Fans strikes deals with theses Corporations? After all these years of fantastic music do they really need it? I tell you why, because they get paid, and nicely. I am an artist myself, and trust me before I sell out (and I had many opportunities to do so) I will go broke and starve. Sometimes I give away my art for free. So, please, take a moment and contemplate that maybe even your Idols have a responsibility in this, bigger than you think. It is hard to stick to your believes, I understand, but it can be done. In this case there are no victims, trust me; we all have a part in this. Next time that you want to go to a concert remember that Life is Impermanent and even 5 minutes in front of a computer screen are priceless because they belong to you. Not to the Lobby nor to Radiohead. Make good use of your time, I am sure that the Band will understand.
Respectfully
Simone
Congrats to the band and its corporate partners on what was certainly a lucrative launch to the upcoming tour, and sympathy to those, like me, who wasted hours yesterday under the delusion that there really were tickets available to ordinary fans. Those tickets were available only on the secondary market, but in a stroke of good fortune the primary broker for the NY shows, Ticketmaster, also operates in the secondary market. Nothing more convenient than one stop shopping.
I'm a bit dejected I won't be able to attend a show, but truly distressed that this has happened here, with regard to this. I re-viewed the band's appearance on the Colbert report from a few years ago, remembering the discomfort with teasing about corporate sponsorship.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/grlcgn/the-colbert-report-radiohead
Today, this has taken on a new meaning.
The shock and anger coming from the band are insulting. One response has been to caution against obtaining seats by the only means available. The warnings against purchasing seats on the secondary market are just a threat to punish those willing and able to pay the exorbitant, exploitative prices commanded on the secondary market, the only means to secure a seat. And what real expectation is there that these threats will be carried out? Ticketmaster certainly does not want to discourage activity on its secondary site, TicketsNow. None of the actors here are incentivized to enforce prohibitions against resale, and if those restrictions were enforced only fans would suffer, not those who have profited from all of this.
More insulting is the feigned shock that all of this happened. There is no doubt that the band did not willfully prevent fans access to tickets, or that they're the ones who profited, but the careless indifference towards ticket distribution, particularly in light of the thoughtfulness that goes in to other forms of interaction with fans, demonstrates a disregard that is disheartening. There was never a question that things would go down this way. Back in January, the NYT reported on the sanctioned corruption in New York's ticketing industry.
But well before that, in 2009, the New Yorker exposed malfeasance at Ticketmaster.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/08/10/the-price-of-the-ticket
"In 2008, Ticketmaster expanded its reach within the secondary market by purchasing TicketsNow, but in doing so the company set itself up for a potential conflict of interest. There appeared to be a strong incentive for Ticketmaster to get tickets into the hands of brokers who operate on TicketsNow, and to reap hefty commissions."
What happened yesterday has happened before, and it is disingenuous to claim surprise at yesterday's events.
I am so done with them and their corrupt practices. I'm sure this rings true with many of you. Sitting in front of PC at 9:55- gnashing teeth ready to see my boys in NYC(or LA for some). 10:00 AM on the dot- start searching for 2 seats best available- says searching- 5 minutes still searching- 10 minutes still searching- 11 minutes- no seats available. WTF I scream and yell(add in many other colorful metaphors). I understand there are just 4 US shows and demand will be high- but how the FUCK do there authorized resellers have tix before I even have the chance to buy them!!!!!!!! I logged the following message to their customer support today- will post response if I get one(ha ha).
Sent to ticketmaster
"I have a very serious inquiry for you. I am pretty fed up at this point. Tried to get Radiohead tickets for Madison Square Garden for either show in July 2016. Was on at 10 AM on the dot and of course couldn't get tix for either show. I understand that these are the only two shows for the east coast and demand is high. My question for you (and why I am so pissed) is how do your resellers have tix for sale before show even goes on sale. This stinks of impropriety(preferential treatment- do you get piece of their action??????).As a loyal fan this seems so wrong to me- they try to sell their tickets at $80 so all can go- yet before the they go onsale to general public- your authorized resellers have tix going from 180-1500 (before anyone can buy tix). On top of this there is a strict ID policy in place where even if I try to buy tix through reseller if my ID doesn't match credit card used for purchase- I will be denied addmission to venue. Please explain how this happens- I am 45 and not a newbie to this(100's of tix through your site)- but seeing resellers selling tix (0n your site)prior to actual on-sale blew my mind- so confused how you allow this and consider yourselves anything but unfair to your ticket buying public"
Just had to vent- congrats to anyone who gets to go!!!!! Guess I will just wait for new album and hope they do a full tour after these shows!!!!!
Dedicated Radiohead fan
Bill
When I heard that Radiohead would be performing two shows at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles (and no where else in the U.S.A. except New York City) I was determined to buy 2 tickets and support the Band I Love so dearly.
I was shocked to discover that TICKETMASTER was already offering tickets to the shows BEFORE the posted On-Sale Date of 03-18-16 at 10:00 am PDT. Ticketmaster was in fact offering tickets as "Resale Tickets on Partner Site". Even though the Posted Cost of the tickets was $75.00 each, the tickets on the "Partner Site" ranged from approx. $900 - $4,000 EACH as Resale.
In other words, Ticketmaster was "Scalping" the tickets BEFORE they EVER went "On-Sale" to the General Public.
On 03-18-16 at 10:00 am, when I attempted to "Click" on the Tickets for Sale on the W.A.S.T.E. Ticket site, the link went to a webpage that said "Forbidden 504" (or something like that).
The only way to correctly link to the websites offering the actual tickets was through the Shrine Box Office Web site or AXS. When I tried to proceed I was shunted into a "Waiting Room" where I was supposed to wait for my chance to purchase tickets. This "Waiting Room" site continually CRASHED over and over again (probably due to the traffic). I tried re-entering the waiting room over and over again until I was informed that the show(s) were SOLD-OUT.
There are still available tickets through the Ticketmaster "Partner" Re-seller if you don't mind paying more than 10X the face value and have NONE of that money going to the Band...
Here in America we are getting used to how the Rich get preferential treatment over everyone else... I just NEVER thought that Radiohead would allow themselves to be a part of it!
So, Come-on Guys! You still have 3 nights in-between the 4th and the 8th. Add at least 2 more shows for the FANS, and make ALL of the tickets available on a First-Come, First-Served basis (just like the old days).
This is the second time in a row that I have been Shut-Out of buying Radiohead Concert Tickets. Last time they came to Southern California I was at least able to get to the page to request 2 tickets, only to be told that there were none available. Once again, this is attempting to get tickets online right when they go on sale (my computer internet connection speed is T-2 level). How about a W.A.S.T.E. Fan-club Pre-sale with Password?
Does Radiohead care what has happened to their fans who want to support them?
Frustrated....
BatDan
what on earth was radiohead thinking doing small venues giving the real fans no chance of getting tickets.
instead all the ticket touts waiting to pounce even if you need ID to get in the venue the touts will take a chance on selling them on ive been a fan since radiohead started but what if the touts sold there tickets to true fans but could not get in and the band were playing to half empty venue or even empty venue makes you think they could have done better the round house just not big enough for the fans pissed off fan
dear fellow Radioheads..
The utterly shameful act of wifi-loss has kept me from buying any tickets in time.
I am looking for tickets to the shows in Amsterdam.. If there's anyone who has or will have a spare one or can't go somehow, PLEASE DO LET ME KNOW!
Oh, and if anyone knows a legit website where I can look for tickets, also please do respond..
RADIOHEAD... ARE YOU LISTENING?
Dear Radiohead,
Not sure if you pay any attention to the postings here on W.A.S.T.E., but if you are, you will surely notice how burned so many of your REAL fans feel after some of the the agonizing ticket sale fiascos of the past few weeks. Getting to know some of these folks by their W.A.S.T.E. postings (which means they are true and engaged fans), it has been heartbreaking to feel their disappointment at not having any REAL shot at buying tickets to see you guys in the Southern California area; up all night to dutifully try the pre-sales, logging on at the exact time to try the on-sales, etc, being told SECONDS after logging on that you're SOL pal. Then minutes afterward, seeing tickets popping up on scalper sites, craigslist, etc. for many hundreds and even thousands of dollars. Really!!! What gives?
I know that this is not what you guys are really about. These fans in particular, are the ones who really love your music. They're not the people who got all worked up about you when you got really popular from The Bends and OK Computer because you were the hot shit flavor of the moment, then slammed you for being all "weird" with Kid A, etc. (remember?: "where are the guitars!!!?"), or even the idiots who said "King of Limbs... It's so short!" (imagine... morons). No... they are the core fans who are really down for the twisting, turning wild musical journey that you guys are on (that WE are on too), no matter where that takes us all. They are the ones really listening to the music, and not there for the "scene".
But the truth is, for better or worse, your preeminent musical vision has made you cultural "icons" as such, and therefore- there's all the bullshit that comes along with that. The scene-sters want to flock to you, and will pay anything to bask in your aura, and the opportunists, who recognize the deep passion of your true fans, seek to exploit that by re-selling them the "lucky" chance to participate in the musical journey (for mucho $$$$). You guys are great, but you're no Bieber! Meaning: as great as you are, most of the pop "mainstream" is still "Radio-who???" The intense demand for your tickets is not driven by mass pop hysteria, but mostly by deeply passionate music-heads. And unfortunately, passion like this is easily taken advantage of.
It is time to realize that you guys are both the creators AND the beneficiaries of a very unique, wonderful, and hopefully long lasting musical juggernaut, and that, again- for better or worse, this means you have to do things a little differently. I think you realized this when you revolutionized the joint with the way you got In Rainbows out there. Now, it seems time to take an equally revolutionary tack with the way your concert tickets are sold. The truly faithful need (and deserve) to have a clearer path to getting tickets for your shows. Please reference the way the Grateful Dead used to sell tickets to their shows: the GREATER percentage of their tickets (sometimes ALL the tickets for a show), were sold only through their fan club, via mail, and it was a true and fair lottery. Maybe you guys could come up with an approach which is as new, cool, and fresh as your music is! I know you can do it. If the Dead could do it for their Dead-Heads, you can do something right by your Head-Heads. And we Head-Heads hope there will be many many more years of wonderful music from you all for us to support, and that we will get a fair chance to be part of the ride. Thanks for listening.
Sincerely, Mad Johnny
THE WORST ticketing service in existence.
it's been giving me the same ticket options for a half hour now, but never gives up the tickys.
it just now started closing out some seating areas...
who knows how long they've actually sold out - they've been offering me seats for an hour now...
that's 1.5 hours of my life i can't get back! all i wanted was one ticket... wish i could score one on craigslist - much easier!
so I have a 100MB internet connection, pre-logged into AXS site - been in waiting room since 9:50am - constantly being told "It will be your turn soon" - then at 10:55am - "Event is officially sold out - please select a different event" -
uugghhhhh -
I logged into the AXS "waiting room" at 9:30 and waited until 10:30 and then it said "It's your turn!" I was like WHAT YES! I selected 2 tickets and then it said "No result found". AAARGGHHHH.
Searching....sit tight
That's the message from ticketmaster (in 3 separate windows) since 10:00 a.m.
No luck getting a single ticket for one of the NYC shows. Apparently the scalpers haven't had this experience. True fans can't buy a single seat from the venue, but there are plenty of options available on the secondary market.
There's got to be a better way.
